Sunday, June 20, 2010

TAMAN RADZI UPDATES

Taman Radzi residents and several animal activists attended the meeting organized by Klang MP Charles Santiago today. Also at the meeting was Klang Municipal Council (MPK) acting health director Zulkifli Abbas who has been avoiding Mr Santiago for several months now. Mr Santiago had made over 100 attempts to contact Zulkifli the past two months but the latter had not responded. Meanwhile, at the meeting owners of the two dogs brutalized by the MPK dog catchers voiced out their anger.
http://malaysiandogsdeservebetter.blogspot.com/2010/06/this-is-help-from-providence.html
Both the dogs were on leashes when they were grabbed from the family’s Myanmar maid. When questioned whether pets which are kept confined in their owner’s premises needed licenses, Zulkifli said the purpose of the license was to merely indicate that the pets have been duly vaccinated. To a question by MDDB if vaccination documents and veterinary records were sufficient as opposed to a license, Zulkifli said YES. He spoke about the CAT committee and several people, including some residents, told him that having a one man show in the guise of a committee was not justifiable. Many of those attending know of Pat Lim and are aware she had quit the committee because she believed it did more harm to animal welfare that safeguarding it. One man even went to the extent of saying it was ridiculous to call a so-called committee dealing with so-called canine issues CAT. Zulkifli was asked to remove the CAT committee from MPK as it did not make sense for an outsider to involve himself in Klang affairs. Instead, it was suggested that a committee comprising local residents who are dog lovers and pet owners be formed instead. Zulkifli was also questioned why MPK was yet to allocate a budget to purchase food for the dogs at the pound. His answer was wishy washy and he said the pound workers collected food from the SPCA twice weekly. However, from the feedback we get, they are there only once a week and at times not at all. When asked why the entire pound was closed-up with zinc panels, Zulkifli said it was to keep the dogs from running out but we do not buy this. We believe it is to prevent us from seeing what’s going on inside. He also told us we were welcome to have adoptions at the pound and we are going to take his word on this. When asked about the dog catcher’s gross behaviour on Wed, Zulkifli said he would investigate the matter and take the necessary action. He was given two weeks by Mr Santiago to come back with a report. About wire loops still being used, Zulkifli said he was not aware that the catchers were doing it. He said he did not know what was going on on the ground. We see this as an admission of being a weak boss. Therefore, this is reason enough for him to be removed. MDDB is now in discussion with the Taman Radzi residents on a TNR exercise in their housing estate. We cannot divulge much now as it may be sabotaged. However, it will be announced when implemented soon.
Write to the relevant people to demand for the removal of Zulkifli Abbas given his failure to manage the dog catching unit.

SELANGOR STATE GOVERNMENT
khalid@selangor.gov.my
ronnieliu@selangor.gov.my

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
Deputy Minister in charge of public complaints at the Prime Minister's Department
Datuk T. Murugiah
murugiah@pmo.gov.my

PUBLIC COMPLAINTS BUREAU - PRIME MINISTER'S DEPARTMENT MALAYSIA - You can make online complaints about Zulkifli Abbas and ask for his removal
http://www.pcb.gov.my/

UPDATE - WED, JUNE 23

We cannot help but notice how the CAT committee person continues to strengthen the fact that the CAT committee does not serve the interest of strays and dogs dumped into the pound. The CAT committee comes across as more of a public relations outfit for local councils, their dog-catchers and their paid dog bounty hunters. This is evident in the statements made in the CAT honcho's a.k.a Arsehole continued assertion that the dog catchers are unsung heroes. He is also actively propagating the catching and killing of strays not realising that this method will only result in the increase of strays due to the dynamics involved. This is indicative that the one-man CAT committee is clueless about the management of strays. The CAT honcho has also tried to discredit MDDB by purportedly publishing comments from a so-called retired animal control officer from a foreign country. Apparently, according to his blog, the chap praised him and told him that CAT's method is the best. This made us double-up with laughter. Arsie knows nuts. In developed countries, animal control officers, are people who attended courses in community colleges in stray management. They are also given the authority to arrest and prosecute. The pounds in these countries generally come with a fully-equipped veterinary facility and the place is hygienic and clean. One holding cage, which is the size of one enclosure, is meant for not more than three dogs. Dogs are treated and put through a behavioural test and subsequently put-up for adoption. They are only destroyed if they are not suitable for adoption because of being fierce. The animal protection laws are also very stringent in these countries and pound workers can be prosecuted of they are cruel towards the dogs at the pounds. We were told by some who comes from Ireland that several local council pound workers in his town were sent to jail some years ago for abusing dogs under their care. The CAT creep further posts another ridiculous comment that MDDB has no website and therefore may not be legit. This is the dumbest statement any arsehole can make. IT TAKES RM400 GET A WEBSITE, WE CAN SPAY FOUR DOGS WITH THAT MONEY, YOU MORON! Anyway, he also did us a favour via one of his posts in which a non-existent person purportedly lambastes us. HE mentioned our name. It has brought us a lot of calls and inquiries as his blog appears in Malaysiakini. Thank you for the publicity. As for the SPCA, the time has come for the organisation to very seriously decide whether it wants to be in the dog catchers PR vehicle known as CAT or form another committee that will really look after the interests of strays and pound dogs. Your reputation is at stake if you stick with this creep. Please also look at this recording in which Zulkifli openly admits that he's a lousy boss.



30 comments:

Mandy said...

In the meeting today with MPK and Tmn Radzi's residents and some Klang folks, Zulkifli told the Klang residents that they get food from SPCA twice a week but that's not true and Zul being the head of dept doesn't even know this.He also commented that healthy dogs that are not claimed after 7 days are given to Jackie Tsang's SAS (Save A Stray) but Jackie is no longer in the CAT Comittee too! And he doesn't even know that?! He also said that dogs in the pound are being segregated accordingly, males, females and puppies are segregated. I thought they are bot suppose to catch puppies anymore?! And for the public's info, the dogs are not being segregated at all.

What a bunch of lies and during the press conference, Zul even turn a deaf ear to one of MDDB's rep cuz he's being bombarded left, right and center for providing 'less than true' info. I wish to let the public know about this because there's always two side of a story and what Zul is not telling is what the public deserves to find out.

Anthony from Pet+ was quoted as saying that a stray's life is not worth living and they're better off dead but i do not agree to this notion at all although i do not condone suffering if the animals are sick but if they have the slightest chance of recovery/survival then i think the animals should not be devoided a chance to a better life and this can be done if only the CAT committee 'teaches' the council to do a better job rather than showing them the method to catch strays. I personally thinks that CAT's expertise and responsibilties should be EDUCATING the council to come up with a better method like TNR (Trap, Neuter, Rehome/ Release-provided there are animal friendly neighbourhood).

I also think that those who should be put to sleep are 'the neighbours/ humans (i dun know if they're fit to be called one) who complaints every time they see a dog/dogs, some ppl just can't stand the sight of dogs and i would use all their energy to file complaints, i'd understand if they are being chased/bitten by dogs but some ppl just have deep hatred for dogs or maybe they have been bitten by a dog before and put their hatred towards all dogs. Worse still are ppl who complaints about dogs poo in their compound/garden/courtyard and so on. For god's sake, just shut your mouth and pick up the shit. At least that excrement smells better than ur foul smelling breath. They have the energy to complaint but can't bend down and pick up the poo?

Well maybe they're just a bunch of bird brains, oooppsss sorry birds are smarter than these idiots!

ykarven said...

Now this is what we're talking about! Hold this guy accountable and dish the dirt he and the catchers been involved in back into their faces!

Honestly speaking how does he even believe the answers he gives us? Did anyone at the conference further challenge him on his answers?

MDDB, great job on highlighting all these issues and ensuring that these guys don't get away with this. Keep us updated on whether zul gets back to Charles Santiago in two weeks. I can assure you that a lot of Malaysians, even those abroad are behind you guys 100%.

Mandy said...

Hi ykarven,

As i said, one of MDDB's rep confronted Zul and was duly ignored and given the fact that he didn't even know that the dogs were not fed twice weekly as claimed by him, males/females/pups are not segregated and so on reflects on whether he's into the animal welfares.

P/S: He personally told me that they have budget approved for dog food so we'll see if it's true or just another empty promises.

Btw En.Zul, if u are reading this I hope we'll get and answer in 14 days period as promised by you.

ykarven said...

Thanks Mandy for the reply. How was his reaction when he was bombarded with the questions? Did he appear nervous, ashamed, or did he still go around looking as if he thought noone could lay a finger on his position?

Anonymous said...

Not moderated?

Rescue said...(Reader in blue)
This post has been removed by the author.
June 20, 2010 10:16 PM

Why do you always think that if someone disagrees with you or are asking you real questions, Wani Muthiah, if what Canon SLR says who you are is true, it's automatically Anthony, his crony, this Thiba Rajoo or some female lackey? I even checked on UPM to find out if there was a TNRealease project done there and the answer was YES.

If you are the same Wani Muthiah who is a writer for The Star, and I DO think so after searching your name, shouldn't you have some sort of ethics in journalism?

I AM Mohd Amir, and I am not writing on behalf of SPCA, Petpositive or MPK! I am writing on behalf of those you have labelled "the bird brains or idiots" in your posts:

"I also think that those who should be put to sleep are 'the neighbours/ humans (i dun know if they're fit to be called one) who complaints every time they see a dog/dogs, some ppl just can't stand the sight of dogs and i would use all their energy to file complaints, i'd understand if they are being chased/bitten by dogs but some ppl just have deep hatred for dogs or maybe they have been bitten by a dog before and put their hatred towards all dogs. Worse still are ppl who complaints about dogs poo in their compound/garden/courtyard and so on. For god's sake, just shut your mouth and pick up the shit. At least that excrement smells better than ur foul smelling breath. They have the energy to complaint but can't bend down and pick up the poo?

Well maybe they're just a bunch of bird brains, oooppsss sorry birds are smarter than these idiots!"

So this is really who you are? I started writing on MDDB to understand your stance on certain MDDB issues and I even raised some of my own. I and some others were cursed by you and maybe some your supporters because of that.
Instead of trying to educate or explain to us other Rakyat who come in to understand MDDB, we are the "idiots" now?

You will hear from me again!

Mohd Amir - Malaysian

Anonymous said...

Taken from AR**HO*E CHRONICLES

I will take it that the writer IS Wani Muthiah from The Star since there is no indication above that it's not.

To Wani Muthiah of The Star and MDDB,

So your position is that lies or deviation from the truth is allowed in a blog but not in a magazine or newpaper? And as a reporter in a reputable local newspaper you are OBLIGATED to be impartial but you can spread lies in your blog?

Sounds to me that you are acting like a policeman upholding the law in the daytime and rape, rob and victimise innocent people at night because you're not on company time?

"Ranting and Raving?" Carefully read all the replies in your blog compared to what I or any other person had written. Clearly, Wani, it is YOU, who is "Ranting and Raving". And by your "Ranting and Raving", it has shown that you are afraid to answer the questions posed to MDDB or simply do not know how to.

I believe, if I ask any other NGO's operating today, I could get answers from them. Why not your's? You want people to support your cause but cannot give them the specifics to it? That's just like giving money to a conman and accepting a "Trust me and don't worry, your money will be well spent".

I have written with and open mind, to ascertain what MDDB's role, agenda and solutions is other than "MDDB's plea is to not kill stray dogs". And what does MDDB suggest then? Other that accusing me of being other people and cursing me, did Wani or any of you REALLY answer me?

Lastly, I am not a blogger and have never participated in any blogs before. So calling me stupid because I'm not as savvy in blogging procedures is uncalled for don't you think?

Searching for the REAL TRUTH,

Amir

Anonymous said...

Do yourself a favour and stop rambling. What real truth? What is your question in the first place?

Mandy said...

Excuse me Mohd Amir, before u go around pointing finger and accusing people and assuming Wani Muthiah wrote the first posting and third posting, please do ur research if it's really her. You are so wrong and u even thought that the comments are meant to reflect you! If u have nothing to hide then why should you be so sensitive about my remark on them being 'bird brains and idiots?'

My comment is purely on the way things are being handled and the fact that the head of dept doesn't even know that the dogs are not being fed, enclosures not cleaned with detergents and so on shows negligence on his part and what is it that u are so sensitive about?

Stop hurling accusations thinking that it's written by Wani just because i use the word bird brains and idiots. U clearly have some issues and i'm sure the rest would agree. I was there at the press conference as a Klangite who want justice to be served and explanations from the involved party. FYI i'm the one who took pics from the pound before the MPK landed in hot soup over the fact that they do not feed the dogs nor put them to sleep as according to the guidelines.

You can even read my encounter from www.myanimalcare.org on the way the dogcatchers behaved under the title 'animal cruelty abounds'. So dun go around shooting blindly and accusing someone for something that they didn't do. I suggest you go and spend your time to do something more worthwhile thann venting ur pre-menopausal anger here.

Mandy said...

If Mohd Amir is so unhappy with this blog then i really dun know why does he even bother to visit the blog. Really unprofessional and it seems like you are the one who is seriously rambling and ranting. Just move on with your life and stop posting if u think this blog is not worth your time and energy.

ykarven: Well, from what i observed En.Zul does not looked embarassed or nervous, in fact he handled it quite well only for the fact that after his explanation to the public and media, he's quite reluctant to answer our question face to face as i suppose he does not know a few fact and maybe didn't want to land himself in hot soup again. But i do hope in 14 days time as promised by En.Zul that we'll received a full report on the situation of the pound and the behaviour of his dog catching team.

Anonymous said...

So Mandy, are you telling me that Ar**Ho*e Chronicles was not written by her now? Because I've done some research and SPS or otherwise known as Sharmini Pokomoko Sasha (A mouthfull) is a moniker/pseudonym/nickname she uses when she writes. The reason why I actually wrote in the first place was, in fact, because of her not the dog by the way.

And Mandy when you wrote this:

"I also think that those who should be put to sleep are 'the neighbours/ humans (i dun know if they're fit to be called one) who complaints every time they see a dog/dogs, some ppl just can't stand the sight of dogs and i would use all their energy to file complaints, i'd understand if they are being chased/bitten by dogs but some ppl just have deep hatred for dogs or maybe they have been bitten by a dog before and put their hatred towards all dogs. Worse still are ppl who complaints about dogs poo in their compound/garden/courtyard and so on. For god's sake, just shut your mouth and pick up the shit. At least that excrement smells better than ur foul smelling breath. They have the energy to complaint but can't bend down and pick up the poo?

Well maybe they're just a bunch of bird brains, oooppsss sorry birds are smarter than these idiots!"

Take what you've written, look at my comments and tell that to me again? I myself fall under some categories that you'd supposedly understand since "Ar**Ho** Chronicles" and I don't hate dogs, but it seems everyone who does not agreee with MDDB, that Wani person or Sharmini Popomokoko Sasha bird brains? Ooops "Idiots?"

Start from the begining, read SPS's AR**Ho** Chronicles and understand where I am coming from.

Amir

Anonymous said...

Take what you've written, look at my comments and tell that to me again? I myself fall under some categories that you'd supposedly understand since "Ar**Ho** Chronicles" and I don't hate dogs, but it seems everyone who does not agree with MDDB, that Wani person or Sharmini Popomokoko Sasha ARE bird brains? Ooops "Idiots?"

Start from the begining, read SPS's AR**Ho** Chronicles and understand where I am coming from.

Amir

Anonymous said...

Amir, you are a disturbed person. Seek help.

Anonymous said...

Since you say I'm disturbed, help me please! Yes, I'm seeking for YOUR help. I'm disturbed at the fact that SPS and MDDB does not know what they are doing and are trying to lie and cheat...too harsh? Let's just say, Deviate us Rakyat about who they really are and what their agenda is because despite the many questions posed to them there are no answers given.

Amir

Anonymous said...

Leave the Rakyat out of this and speak for yourself please. I, for one, prefer to make my own judgement than have an Internet random 'represent' me.

Anonymous said...

Amir, we don't know you but we know the people who are behind MDDB. We know that they do an excellent job and we know they have rehomed hundreds of puppies and dog. They have a track record. We also know that they are all gainfully employed professionals who sacrifice all their free time and most of their money to help the strays. That's why we help them. instead coming here and rambling in your attempts to sabotage them and character assasinate the organisations with your wild allegations, we suggest you attend one of their adoption drives to see the excellent work they do.

Anonymous said...

amir go see a psychiatrist, u psycho. don't seek help from an organisation that helps dogs unless u think u are a "d**". oops


btw mddb, u are doing a great job in highlighting these issues and helping the dogs. at last, the dogs have a voice. i am an independent dog rescuer and i know how tough this job is. u have my support all the way

karmen said...

Amir,

Again, what MDDB does is for all to see in this blog. They are a professional bunch who dedicate their free time to highlight issues that never make the local papers for rakyats to read, they provide rehoming and required treatment for dogs that most rakyats would have given up hope on.

I have asked you before, what is your solution if not for trap, neuter, release? Have you read any of the postings here that the rescued dogs are never released instead MDDB rehomes them even at the cost of placement at the vets? Do you actually agree with what the council is doing? Bear in mind MDDB has limited funds, they do not have the liberty of spending as what the council has.

Looking forward to your reply.

Anonymous said...

amir,

For ages the local councils have caught and put to sleep countless dogs yet the problem still exists. that means what they are doing is not the correct solution. instead it encourages corruption/ abuses to animals (ie awarding contracts to private contractors who know nuts about animals)and extortion/ bribery by local council workers.

why not give TNR a try? since it works in countries like india, thailand, i don't see why it can't work in m'sia. the govt can give lands to NGOs to manage the rehoming of strays. This is a win-win solution. Population of strays will be controlled and eventually we can eliminate this problem. So we need the govt to take the first step as finances of NGOs are limited.

i also understand why MDDB needs to adopt an aggressive stance on this issue in order to be heard. Well done MDDB.
Even PETA resorts to tasteful nudity to get their messages across. Whatever it takes, right, for the benefits of animals

Owner of 3 strays

Anonymous said...

Excuse me Amir, we're not so free to compare what you've wrote and compare to other comments. U clearly have some issues. Just go away if you're so unhappy. So what if Arsehole Chronicles is written by her? Why are u being so protective over that? You're him? JUst go far far away if u dun like this blog. Get it?

Anonymous said...

Dear owner of 3 dogs,

At last, I find someone who is more rational in these blog comments. Do you represent MDDB or are an independent animal rescuer? I have mentioned time again that I commend all rescue work and the idea of rehoming. Also I respect the fact that Animal Welfare Groups such as yourselves go all out against cruelty issues.

I would like you to start reading from the A***H*** Chronicles and read through every comment that I made and the responses that was given to me before we go into the TNRelease concept that MDDB is proposing and my views on the matter.

Look back and really study your statement "why not give TNR a try? since it works in countries like india, thailand, i don't see why it can't work in m'sia." Then come back with an open mind.

If you are part of MDDB, ask SPS@Wani because she's probably the head of your organization to answer the questions I posed.

Regards

Amir

Anonymous said...

And there goes the neighbourhood:

"Anonymous said...

Excuse me Amir, we're not so free to compare what you've wrote and compare to other comments. U clearly have some issues. Just go away if you're so unhappy. So what if Arsehole Chronicles is written by her? Why are u being so protective over that? You're him? JUst go far far away if u dun like this blog. Get it?"

Amir

Anonymous said...

i am the owner of the 3 dogs and i am NOT a member of MDDB. I represent myself only and i help these dogs within my means (and that means using my own salary)

i have read the A**Hole chronicles and i agreed with what the author of MDDB said.

as for u amir, i suggest you go through this blog and see how much work MDDB has done in REHOMING these strays. they can take the easy way out by dumping these dogs on the street but they DON'T bec they are COMPASSIONATE.

P.s My time is precious and i rather go around helping these strays than wasting my time analysing yur comments etc.

Viva la TNR

Open-minded owner of 3 strays :)

Anonymous said...

Rehoming, rehoming, rehoming, YES, YES for the final time I GET THE PICTURE. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD, and what about the release?

Amir

km said...

It is a proposition but one that many of us do not wish to take. MDDB has rehomed and is actively rehoming the animals they have rescued. Release is in the bigger scheme of things. Again, based on TNR (release/rehome), i'd rather take that stance than what the council is doing at the moment. There has not been an ounce that killing the animals (i can't even use the word euthanise because the animals die a sad and grissly death) works because strays continue to breed.

Jason said...

Amir trying to show off his cut and paste skills. He thinks he's good at that and trying to cut and paste ppl's comment, asking ppl to comment his comments. LOl, he's funny and he looked like the biggest joke here. Good entertainment though.

ykarven said...

With regards to the update and video:

'Saya rasa malulah'.

Sempat senyum lagi masa cakap camtu? Please. Tengok muka sekaligus pun dah tau you're listening to a serial LIAR. Talk is easy. You can promise to call your catchers up and listen to what they have to say. But we have video evidence here and will hold you to your word if you fail to come back to us with your findings. Oh and btw, if you are really a man of your word, you won't need someone else to invite you to explain yourself. YOU DO IT ON YOUR OWN INITIATIVE.

Residents who made their views known during the press conference,

I am terribly sorry to hear that you guys and your dogs and those close to you had to endure what you guys did. Lets continue this effort to ensure that these horrible practices are no longer continued.

Amir Amir Amir,

Man did i really think about how i wanted to reply to your posts. But then i realized that you practically copied and pasted everyone else's views and failed to come up with something coherent yourself. How la to argue with someone like this?

And frankly, your obsession with this Wani from The Star is seriusly disturbing. Maybe you should try copying and pasting 'stalker' onto dictionary.com to get a true reflection of what you are.

Btw, feel free to copy and paste my thoughts when you come up with a reply.

Anonymous said...

Hopefully Amir can keep posting his comments or rather to say cut and paste posting.

Regardless Amir comments keeps me entertained, can't wait to see what is his newest comments is.

Anonymous said...

anthony/amir remember me?im vincent.i email u around 4 years ago on the topic about how dogs can help the disable.i've ask u on how i can teach my 2 rotties 2 help the disabble.i even offer u a 2 way air ticket 2 sabah n pay 4 ur service.but ur reply really shocked me.this is what anthony wrote in his email,(im sorry i cannot help u if u want 2 teach ur dogs as im a busy man.furthermore we have a group thats help the disable but not u.im very sorry.)

well anthony,if u wanna help that is matter who's doing it? or is it because u don't want others 2 help because u r scared that ur periuk nasi akan terjejas o ur group will b out of work?
so this is my answer 2 u, u stupid fuck.
i know ur ugly face.n if i ever c u in kk,i will kidnap u,put a pheromon in ur ass n ask my 2 rotties 2 fuck ur faggot ass.o better still i myself will fuck ur faggot ass.hows that 2 b vulger?hoi anthony bangsat,sedarlah sikit.sudahlah cacat,muka pun muka seposen,langsung tak ada komersial value.malulah sikit.daripada u melalak n spam this site,bugus u masuk balik puki mak engkau.memalukan bangsa dan negara saja.

p/s 2 all the OKU idont mean 2 b rude but ur friend here really need this bashing.if i offend u im really sorry as i don't mean 2.n 2 anthony thanasayan,jangan ingat u OKU boleh buat n cakap ssedap rasa saja.FUCK U ANTHONY, FUCK U THANASAYAN 4 MAKING UR WIFE PREGNANT N FUCK U ANTHONY MUM 4 BRINGING THIS WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT 2 THIS WORLD.

VINCENT

Anonymous said...

Funny that we didn't see/hear Amir's comment anymore. Hmmm...still trying his best to make a point? I doubt anybody would agree with him and he would well better leave this site for good.

Anonymous said...

I found Amir was quite a nuisance in the beginning, but lately i starting to miss his post..haha